SwordSoup
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Post by SwordSoup on Apr 6, 2014 19:36:16 GMT -8
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Post by clara on Apr 7, 2014 15:47:25 GMT -8
I have a few edits to make. I just finalized the translations today, so there's a couple thing that are different. I think it'd be easier for me just to rewrite them, and then maybe Gabriel or one of the admins can edit the original post or something. All formatting has been preserved as best I can, though there are still a *few* letters and punctuation marks that I'm a bit unsure about (Like the "-". I thought it might be a ";", but "-" makes more sense grammatically and such). If people like, I may post the originals and a code key later so people can check my work. So, here we go: Message 1: Something went wrong these past few years at Skyeyes et Necrenef. There was a great host of the Frostbitten before, and now but a handful remain At first we were unsure of the situation, as nothing is as it seems But after a year it was clear something had changed. Hosts had altered their course and ran wild or fought each other. The storm which raged ever as a cloud of opposition ran rampant across the planes. We met and fought Brightscar, Silverstrand, and Bluefinger, and Beat them all! Something was not right. We found at least a dozen Frostbitten, face down, cold, and frozen. The titans spoke to us on one occasion, and I am still to make sense of it. "He has shattered the eye- now he chases his shadows." Could they have been speaking of the Ominous We have seen them a great deal now, not just the rare stories from long ago. Message 2: It is as if the paintings in the caverns have come to life We had an encounter with one directly, and I'm ashamed to say I was the only survivor Everyone went mad, some froze, others killed themselves, it was awful I just remember the sound of voices in the wind, shouts and cries. There was a man I think, looking at me from the vortex of the Ominous We are moving on the city now, as I do not know that we will get another chance. I will send word to the south, and those that might assist us there. But I have little faith in the powers beyond the snow This land is cruel to those who do not know it All beyond are frozen out. Wish us luck. Abraham Ferris Odil-Sim, Mourners, Sum Send Also I'm putting the originals here because that seems smart.
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Post by clara on Apr 7, 2014 16:21:52 GMT -8
So. My thoughts. Most of my thoughts are questions. Can we get someone with a bunch of levels in historian to check this stuff out? Questions: - What does "Mourners, Sum Send" mean?
- Who's Abraham Ferris Odil-Sim?
- What even are "the Ominous", and what is their "vortex"?
- Who are "the titans"?
- What caverns and what paintings?
Theorizations/other thoughts: - The Frostbitten are obviously gonna be Frost's vamps.
- Silverstrand, Bluefinger, and Brightscar are carakwaith names. (I don't even know how to spell it, sorry)
- Odil is a damn old name, so that's interesting. Not sure about the "Sim" part though.
- Could "The Ominous" be something too powerful to refer to by name? Or maybe a group of vampires or something that just go by that title? Weird. He says there's old stories about them, so maybe we should historian it.
- "the city" sounds like it's referring to Skyeyes et Necrenef.
- Speaking of witch, woohoo, a new dark city! Probably under Frost.
- This sounds like it might well have been written by a vampire hunter, seeing as he says they fought carakwaith, and that they're moving in on "the city".
- But he does seem mildly perturbed by something having happened to Skyeyes, and not incredibly happy about it, so that would be weird in that case.
- Maybe he's allied with Skyeyes, and the other carakwaith are fighting Frost?
- But he doesn't seem like he's a vampire/carakwaith, seeing as he goes by a human name, and as he notes that the north is cold and cruel, something that I don't think undead would care about.
- "the titans" isn't capitalized but "the Ominous" is. So then are they actual titans?
So, generally weird. I think we need more info. Historians, GO!
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Post by Celebfealor on Apr 7, 2014 22:42:37 GMT -8
Historian at your service! *salute* In response to Clara:- Mourners: I would assume that the Mourners is the name of some kind of group or organization up there.
- Abraham Ferris Odil-Sim: Aside from possibly one of the dead guys, apparently part of the Mourners. I think it's interesting that his name has Odil in it - down here we have Odilwatch, Odilathen. In terms of linguistics, Odil is a very old human name, people who branched off of the Cri Tribe (Illionass); it has connotations/associations with evil. Apparently a group of the same family that ran Odilwatch branched up off north a long time ago. I don't know if they're still evil; the family that was running Odilwatch before the vampires took over certainly wasn't evil (Odilwatch was traditionally LN or TN before that), but they may still be. Especially given that they went north and the north isn't a nice place.
- The Ominous and the Vortex: The Ominous sounds, well, ominous. Given the capital letter it's obviously a particular thing. It could be a place, it could be some kind of force (whether magical or supernatural), it could be the name of a being or a deity... As for the vortex, if you look up the definition of a vortex, it's a "swirling mass of [insert material or concept here]." Air, water, fire, etc. I could see the vortex being a whirlpool of some kind, and thus maybe the Ominous being a word for the ocean (which can certainly be pretty ominous and harbor nasty stuff). It could also be some kind of darker being and some kind of evil portal thing too I suppose. However, I've never actually heard of either of those, so I'm not going to make assumptions until we know more. Which will require in-game historian levels, which I do not currently have access to.
- The titans are actually titans - they're a race of really epic giants, I think. Apparently people met some way back when LARP was first starting down here. I don't know anything about their motives or their stats or anything, but I'm going to assume they have either very high or extreme intelligence given the implications of what they said.
- Caverns and paintings: I guess there's some kind of dungeon out there? I immediately thought of cave paintings like you have in the real world - and I mean, why wouldn't something like that exist in Roekron, too? Especially far in the north where things are going to be preserved well because of the cold. And because caves would be warmer places to hide probably and take shelter from the weather, so it would make sense to have paintings there and thus have some kind of record of history in them. Which would in turn imply that the associates of the Ominous are very old.
- Frostbitten: I would assume Frost's vampires too. I heard other hypotheses that they might actually be something besides vampires - like the ice zombie things from Game of Thrones or something. Which is a possibility too. But I'm going to go with his carakwaiths.
(other thoughts pending, will take time to write up)
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Post by Celebfealor on Apr 8, 2014 0:07:58 GMT -8
Initial Observations
My guess is that this Abraham, as well as his group of Mourners, is actively hostile towards the Dark City. He says, "We are moving on the city [of Skyeyes et Necronef] now, as I do not know that we will get another chance". That sounds like an attack to me. He also mentions fighting Frost's carakwaiths - Silverstrand, Brightscar, Bluefinger - and that they "beat them all". So these guys are definitely not only against the Dark City but probably specialize in vampire-hunting, too. I can see the name "the Mourners" coming in here - mourning for the old city, perhaps, or for the people in it who were turned. You generally mourn for dead or lost people, and any Dark City is full of both of them. Given that his surname includes Odil, and Odil is-was the royal family name of Odilathen/Odilwatch, that probably means that this guy is descended from the royal line up there. Who knows if that lineage is still considered royal up north, but if it is, it's possible that Abraham or his family members were part of the court there. Either way, Skyeyes is definitely a significant city up north - every single Dark City that we have ever seen has taken place in a hugely important city. Celendil. Krodigros. Serpenton. You never get a Dark City someplace like Lumi Town, or Shadowguard. So it would be safe to assume that Skyeyes was a capital city of some kind, I think, so it would make sense for it to be a city from which a family ruled from. Also, the fact that it's named "Skyeyes" of all things is interesting to me - more on that later.
Last notes on places - "Mourners, Sum Send" might relate to a particular location (Sum Send) where the Mourners are located, perhaps. And perhaps the man's name is just Abraham Ferris, and Odil-Sim is the city that he is or was from.
Considering again the part where Abraham says, "We are moving on the city now, as I do not know that we will get another chance". That alone says that something is very wrong in the Dark City up north - can you imagine attacking Serpenton et Necronef? I certainly can't, unless there was something wrong enough in there that the vampires would be more concerned with dealing with internal things than focusing on potential exterior threats. Which, when you have most of a country against you, means that something very wrong is happening. There's so much other evidence of it, though. One, "There was a great host of the frostbitten before, and now but a handful remain". Assuming that the frostbitten refers to Frost's "bitten" (his carakwaiths, or maybe even just his vampires), that means that something has been picking them off. Probably these Mourners as well as maybe other folk, but very likely other forces too. It also seems like there might even be some internal conflict going on - "At first we were unsure of the situation... But after a year it was clear something had changed. Hosts had altered their course and ran wild or fought each other". I'm not sure what a host is in this context, but a host is usually the carrier for a parasite. Maybe a disease. So it could be carries of vampirism (meaning vampires), but my bet is that there's something else going on. Like there's something that latched onto certain people or that Frost put on certain people that functions as some kind of parasite, but that something has gone wrong with the process and now they're all fighting each other. I assume the fighting each other is not intentional at least, as that seems detrimental to the solidity of a city.
More things that signify that something is deeply wrong with Skyeyes et Necronef: "The storm which raged ever as a cloud of opposition ran rampant across the planes". I assume he means the shroud of the Dark City. We know that the shroud follows the Elder Vampire, not the city, so what this meant is that things were bad enough that Frost left his city to go around either mauling opposition or running the heck away from something. Then he mentions the "dozen Frostbitten, face down, cold, and frozen". Assuming again that Frostbitten means carakwaiths or vampires (which we shouldn't), that would mean that a *dozen vampires or carakwaiths* were found completely incapacitated. That actually seems very unlikely to me - very unlikely, or else very scary - so it may be that Frostbitten refers to something else. Perhaps the hosts for the parasite-like thing from earlier? It's hard to say.
As for the source of what it is that's so wrong, and so awful that Frost himself would have to come out of his city to deal with things personally? The titans said, "He has shattered the eye - now he chases his shadows."
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I'm leaving this here because my mind just exploded and I can't get it back. If it returns in any useful form I'll continue. This is more than plenty for now anyway.
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Post by clara on Apr 8, 2014 6:46:07 GMT -8
Thank you very much, Kim. On the "hosts". It does say "there was a great host of the Frostbitten before," so the word has been used before. So it might be hosts of vampires or just of various monsters. I feel like if the word "host" meant something other than a group, he wouldn't use it to refer to an actual group. Or if the Frostbitten are something else, and are related to the possible parasite things, he might capitalize it. I dunno, but just pointing out that the word has been used before.
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Post by Celebfealor on Apr 8, 2014 15:16:44 GMT -8
Oh yeah. That word has multiple meanings, huh. Thank you Clara. >.>
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SwordSoup
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Post by SwordSoup on Aug 20, 2014 5:00:11 GMT -8
Another one,
He has shattered the eye and now he chases his shadows Each as wind through his empty heart Summoned from the worlds sleeping passage The white striders glare upon the endless drifts Seeking alliances as of long ago He split the mountains silver lake Now the snow shrouds walk again As once the smallmen fought them back Always striking against their sight The swirling rage of a thousand lifetimes Now devours our world in ravenous ignorance Dark is the heart that wakes the sleeping white They are his doom and will consume Him But all of us as well The storm cares not for whom it will smite They are broken and driven apart of our sight
Spoken by (?)ardenians of the Eye writ h(er)e by Abraham Ferris Odil- Sim, Mourner: Titans Watch
Maybe someone with the actual paper or a better picture than mine can fix the errors and parenthesed portions...
Thoughts and evaluations to come at some point when I have more time.
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Post by clara on Aug 21, 2014 23:03:18 GMT -8
Who has the actual paper? Because I don't think I do. And what does the code look like?
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Mud
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Post by Mud on Sept 10, 2015 11:47:02 GMT -8
One thing that seems interesting is that in the "Double Code Ominous Message" it says that (presumably Frost) is being chased by his shadow, and here the titans reportedly said that he is *chasing* his shadow. It plays into one of the theories I've heard that some of Frost got merged with the Ominous (or something along those lines), does anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Post by milaek on Sept 15, 2015 12:01:47 GMT -8
Aren't the storm haunts known as the ominous? Aren't they shattered frosty bits from the breaking of sky eyes?
I remember in a vision something was under the water and was peirced with the lance and shattered. Perhaps the ominous? If it has been somehow fused with frost (perhaps his intent when shattering sky eyes, to free the ominous trapped within and to attain its power) but it was shattered into many parts and prooved to much for frost to handle (which would fit in with that prophecy or paper or whatever about the cup with the spirits and frost drinking from it) and now the shattered parts hunt their would be master (the storm haunts storming around after frosty the damn snowman)
Vortex of the ominous would be the storms. Imagine those storms somewhere where it was already predisposed to intense snow and cold? All centered like a vortex around the ominous (storm haunt) within.
And 'a man looked at me from within the vortex' sounds like he caught a glimpse of one of the the haunts being in its more humanoid form like when they talk to us and aren't just storming about.
The haunts are probably hunting not frost, but his frostbitten, hence the incapacitation. And now that it's gotten to the point of so many getting wrecked he's out to fight them himself, even though they are in essence his fragmented shadow fused to the fragments of the ominous?
As for cave paintings, it means that long ago this ominous was along the land, so long ago that only cave paintings remain or were ever made by terrified peolle of ages past. Like cavemen. Now it rises again and this man is seeing what was painted in the caves with his own eyes.
The the window got blown open by the storm. We wont be able to close it until the winds fade.
Which points to solve the haunts. Should do something at the very least, even if I'm wrong.
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Post by jeremy the other one on Sept 15, 2015 18:56:08 GMT -8
A group of us went to solve the haunts but we need to find time for chris to run that so that may already be dealt with.
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