Gorlan
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Post by Gorlan on Jan 14, 2013 15:19:37 GMT -8
So let's prioritize everything: 1. Clean up east gate 2. Delay Militia 3. Figure out curse (This may have to be done sooner if it impedes our progress) 4. Save our friends (Also may need to be done sooner) 5. Summon more stuff 6. Find a way to convince everyone that we are a third party (So we aren't attacked by orcs) This is just my opinion on the matter, feel free to comment on it.
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Post by jeremy on Jan 15, 2013 22:51:19 GMT -8
In my opinion turning the militia back to pacifism is more important than most things, though that will certainly be a long term goal. I dont really know whats going on with the east gate so I wont comment on that, but in response to Kim's point about the maim cult, going around waving a silver sword and taking down the demons would serve many purposes. First and formost it would rid us of the filaments themselves, secondly it would prove to the maim cult that we ment no harm, and that we are willing to correct any percieved mistakes of ours (even though it wasn't our fault). In addition, it would show the militia that we are capable of taking on a prblem far bigger than anything that they would dare to do. Also, it may not be entirely necessary to just go around waving a silver sword. everywhere that a filament has caused some harm(or the important filaments that have a potential to cause harm) will almost certainly have well documented locations, though it is unfortunate that the best records we are likely to find will lie with the maim cult. Anyways, I would set this as a pretty high priority, because it will achieve many of our goals, in spite of being rather dangerous.
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SwordSoup
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Post by SwordSoup on Jan 15, 2013 23:51:20 GMT -8
The reason the maimed exists is because the filaments weren't documented. Most of them were just having a marvelous vacation and happened to lose or a limb or have a family member shredded. The documentation of these locations may now exist, but there are still many filaments that are unknown, and that's what the maimed care about.
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Gorlan
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Post by Gorlan on Jan 16, 2013 8:09:17 GMT -8
In my opinion turning the militia back to pacifism is more important than most things, though that will certainly be a long term goal. I dont really know whats going on with the east gate so I wont comment on that, but in response to Kim's point about the maim cult, going around waving a silver sword and taking down the demons would serve many purposes. First and formost it would rid us of the filaments themselves, secondly it would prove to the maim cult that we ment no harm, and that we are willing to correct any percieved mistakes of ours (even though it wasn't our fault). In addition, it would show the militia that we are capable of taking on a prblem far bigger than anything that they would dare to do. Also, it may not be entirely necessary to just go around waving a silver sword. everywhere that a filament has caused some harm(or the important filaments that have a potential to cause harm) will almost certainly have well documented locations, though it is unfortunate that the best records we are likely to find will lie with the maim cult. Anyways, I would set this as a pretty high priority, because it will achieve many of our goals, in spite of being rather dangerous. The problem is that the filaments turn into moriganti wraiths when hit with silver, and when killed turn into filaments. Without exorcism at best all we can do is move them. Provided we aren't killed by the wraith then the cult will also kill us. Also our party is not non-violent, so we could mess things up pretty bad. The east gate is my priority, because it is a direct threat to Sashi eten. I would like to try putting a silver tube over a filament, if we go so far as to try and deal with them.
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Post by SwordSoup on Jan 16, 2013 12:30:11 GMT -8
That brings up a new subject. Does anyone know just how tall a filament is?
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Post by jeremy on Jan 16, 2013 16:02:59 GMT -8
I am pretty sure that we could get someone to come with us and exorcise the wraiths, though I agree that this will be incredibly dangerous and likely fatal to many of us. Encasing a filament in a silver tube then bringing it back to sashi iten could be a viable strategy, though we would have to keep in mind that it would need to be sealed on all sides. I beleive that a filament is at least as tall as head height, but I am not entirely sure as for the exact dimensions. They likely vary at least a little bit too.
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Post by Lily on Jan 16, 2013 19:48:54 GMT -8
Stop thinking about the casing idea because when you tried to put the case on the silver would activate it. Evan if you covered the silver what ever you covered it with would be cut.
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Post by SwordSoup on Jan 16, 2013 20:48:05 GMT -8
This gives me an idea for a canning business.
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Post by jeremy on Jan 16, 2013 22:27:15 GMT -8
Not true if the silver does not come into direct contact with the filament. sounds like we need some more steady hands....
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Post by Celebfealor on Jan 16, 2013 23:00:06 GMT -8
I do believe that just touching a filament with silver will activate it. It's also entirely possible that having *that much silver* *that close* will aggravate the spirit enough to activate it too, but I have no examples to back that up with. As a note, people *have* put the filaments into solid silver boxes before, so if people want to do something using that strategy, have at it.
Hunting filaments is probably not the best use of our time right now - we *do* have the East Gate and a bunch of other things to worry about. And anyway, if anyone is going to clean that mess up, it should be the older adventurers.
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Gorlan
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Post by Gorlan on Jan 17, 2013 8:06:19 GMT -8
I was wondering what would happen when the silver touches the wraith, but the wraith is confined, as a way to kill them easier. How did these filaments even get out here in the first place? Where was the moriganti unforged. Agreed on the older adventures,however I can't help you there.
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Post by SwordSoup on Jan 17, 2013 12:39:35 GMT -8
The filaments weren't formed when the morganti was unforged. It was when the wraiths were killed that they turned into filaments.
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Post by jeremy on Jan 17, 2013 16:51:29 GMT -8
what, exactly, would you consider more important than the filaments (aside from the east gate) and why? I believe I expounded upon the reasons of why it would be, in fact, very important above. I still think that they are a major step to accomplishing anything important that will stand.
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Post by ElfChild on Jan 17, 2013 17:37:08 GMT -8
Nobody's saying they aren't important, but the vampires attacking the gate are kind of a more urgent thing right now, not to mention most of the party is all of level three or four. At least the filaments will stay where they are and if they haven't changed in over 20 years there's no reason for them to do so now*.
Lets see. More urgent things. Vampires, militia, urukai, curses. NOT SAYING IT ISN'T IMPORTANT. Just saying it's one of those things that should be put off till later.
*This applies to some things more than others. And it might be wrong. But I still vote we get evidence of its wrongness before we decide it is inapplicable here.
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Post by jeremy on Jan 17, 2013 21:48:57 GMT -8
oh no, I know that you don't think that, but still, did you read what I said above? it was a bit verbose i suppose. Anyways, I didn't really know about the East Gate, because I was an NPC on the other side of things, but I agree that vampires are more important(though I don't see what the lvl 3s and 4s are going to do about it)
However, basic summary of what I said, filaments will potentially deal with both the militia and the urukai, or at least provide a step towards success. Also, the maimed cult.
P.S. Just curious, are we really THAT worried about the curse?
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