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Post by ElfChild on May 8, 2013 14:08:15 GMT -8
So long as people are posting prophecies, here's a copy of the one Shailar read to the party on Sunday morning.
Shadows wake and seek for birth Temple dwellings sown with death Give undead horror its silent breath The damage that will never heal Is torn wide by the war horn's peal The door cannot be shut again For the wounds cannot be healed of men The seams are held by ancestors faith But the shadows pass in like a wraith Watch for the mists of the lands Drifting in from perilous night Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound.
I want you guys to help analyze it. It's a prophecy-sounding thing. Go. Analyze. That's what we do with prophecies.
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Post by Gorlan on May 8, 2013 14:59:59 GMT -8
Alright, here goes: Shadows wake and seek for birth - Shadowlands, trying to get back. Temple dwellings sown with death - Shrines that we didn't finish cleaning last year Give undead horror its silent breath - Not totally sure. "Dirty" Shrines are helping the undead. The damage that will never heal - Morganti. Is torn wide by the war horn's peal - Sorikonia MUST stay PACIFIST. The door cannot be shut again - We can't let it open again, or else it can't be shut? For the wounds cannot be healed of men - (Forthcoming) The seams are held by ancestors faith - Divinity is as always, important. But the shadows pass in like a wraith - Ancestors are unable to keep everything out. Watch for the mists of the lands - Drifting in from perilous night - Listen for the murmurs - Of the dead men east from sight - ?.... Feel for the tenuous tremors - Instructions Of the earthquake which tears no ground - Could be a metaphor, or it could be refering to the tsunami, since they usually originate from undersea earthquakes. Wait for the coming madness - Instructions Of the hell to which you're bound. - YAY!!!
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Post by ElfChild on May 8, 2013 15:06:05 GMT -8
MY GOD. How did I not see this?
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground
Dead men east from sight? THAT'S THE HAUNTS! The dead Serpenton guard! They came from the southeast! Earthquake which tears no ground? A tsunami is caused by an UNDERWATER EARTHQUAKE.
That was surprisingly literal. Assuming I'm not misinterpreting it.
And then this joined the list of prophecies not understood until way too late. Reanalyzing. All of it. I need to avoid being stupid. Brain: Plot Mode, ACTIVATE.
Shadows wake and seek for birth (This is a detatched line. We don't have the first half of this paper.) This. Seems like it coud mean something more than "evil things want to come into being", but we don't have the first half of it's couplet. edit. Shadowlands sounds potentially correct, given how you guys found a door to them in the tunnels.
Temple dwellings sown with death Give undead horror its silent breath The shrines that were so screwed up last year are going to give birth to some form of nasty. Somehow. edit. If the prior line refers to the Shadowlands, this is prolly related to that as well.
The damage that will never heal Is torn wide by the war horn's peal OK so. There was this girl. Who was fixing rifts in the world over the timejump. Once upon a time. And. They'd get sewn back together, but they wouldn't heal properly, they could just be sewn to very thin lines. So that's the damage. And I guess the threads that stitched it together are gonna be torn out and the cracks torn open and who knows what that'll do. Look out for a literal war horn cos I don't know what a figurative one would look like.
The door cannot be shut again For the wounds cannot be healed of men Which doesn't mean we can't try.
The seams are held by ancestors faith But the shadows pass in like a wraith Something's coming in through the hairline fractures in the worldplace.
Watch for the mists of the lands Drifting in from perilous night I got nothing. Unless it's referring specifically to the battle with the vamps and their parties of undead on the shore after the tsunami. There was mist there, right? Also there were the funny mist undeady things from last season. IDK. I hope it's not those.
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground Already talked about this.
Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound. Okay guys. I don't know what this one means. But it sounds really really bad. And. It also sounds like the next step in a series of events.
This has been edited based on having looked at Dev's comments.
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Post by Gorlan on May 8, 2013 15:17:34 GMT -8
I feel helpful. Definitely need to go look at the haunts. Does my pacifism thing sort of work for Torn wide by war horns peal. Generally war horns don't "peal" but that seems to be for rhyming purpose. Can I ask where you got this?
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Post by ElfChild on May 8, 2013 15:20:03 GMT -8
1. Maybe. IDK. It could relate to war and pacifism, but other places have war too and they aren't coming apart at the seams. I hope. Maybe they are. Maybe we just aren't seeing it. *panic* 2. Actually, "peal" is a legitimate term for the sound of a horn. 3. You may ask whatever you want, that does not mean I will answer it.
Go look at the other one too, analyze it, make it make sense. Come on. They're both important.
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Post by SwordSoup on May 8, 2013 16:46:38 GMT -8
I'd like to try my hand at analysis as well...
Shadows wake and seek for birth Things from the shadowlands coming into Sorikonia, what a surprise.
Temple dwellings sown with death Give undead horror its silent breath Shrines from last season.
The damage that will never heal Is torn wide by the war horn's peal The first line seems to be referring to morganti, but the second line is puzzling. It could mean reawakening of morganti wraiths, but that doesn't correlate well with the war horn. What I think is most likely is that the war horn is merely representing the arrival of another war and that there isn't anything special about the horn. This opens up a new level of interpretation, is it the wraiths being brought back by war? Is the damage that will never heal actually the “doors” under Sorikonia?
The door cannot be shut again For the wounds cannot be healed of men I think these lines support my theory of the war horn representing a war involving the doors, not necessarily physical morganti. However, the use of for in the second line support a correlation between the doors and actual morganti wounds. I'm starting to get a tinkling that the doors are related to actual morganti or the wraiths. This makes some sense given the shadowlands relation with morganti and all the new morganti related activities in Sorikonia. It also explains the door opening now, with heightened morganti use from maimed and vampire activity. Though this could just be my inner conspiracy theorist talking.
The seams are held by ancestors faith Building on my theory further, it makes sense to bring another perspective to this line in which the Sorikonian traditions and faith are the direct opposite of this morganti. Since the shadowlands and morganti have only crept in when ancestor traditions were at their weakest, like now and the black vs white spirits thing from last season.
But the shadows pass in like a wraith I only separated these lines so I could stick my rant under the previous, but yes, this line is included in my theory.
Watch for the mists of the lands Drifting in from perilous night These lines are interesting, I have a couple random theories about them in relations to the shadowlands and the weird land killed by mind control spirit things that we've seen recently.
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight Yup, haunts to the east. Nothing much to add here.
Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground Tsunaminess.
Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound. Ominous foretelling. Sheesh, prophecies always thinking they know what's going to happen. Although, in all seriousness the use of being bound to hell is very similar to shadowlands stuff.
And that was my random theory, feel free to bash it and tell me the wholes if you desire.
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Post by clara on May 8, 2013 17:22:10 GMT -8
Because I feel like analyzing this. (Partially so I remember and understand it better, as I probably won't have anything new to say)
Shadows wake and seek for birth- Shadowlands, obviously. Also, OOooo, demons.
Temple dwellings sown with death- Shrines with filaments+horribleness in them.
Give undead horror its silent breath- The broken shrines make some undead thing more powerful.
The damage that will never heal- MORGANTI. Also, world rifts/filaments
Is torn wide by the war horn's peal- Auuuug. I remember something about a magic warhorn thing, but not quite what. Warhorn might break open rifts and suchlike.
The door cannot be shut again- Rifts can't be closed.
For the wounds cannot be healed of men- MORGANTI. Also, rifts that need divine stuffs to be fixed. Or women. *nodnod*
The seams are held by ancestors faith- Need divine stuffs to be fixed.
But the shadows pass in like a wraith- Em. Those weird undead skeleton things that came in and left again?
Watch for the mists of the lands- Weird warpy stuff? Or mist drifting through cracks in universe. Or something.
Drifting in from perilous night- Coming from shadowlands?
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight- Listen for stuffs.
Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground- Spirit earthquake? That causes rifts?
Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound- Fun!
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Post by Gorlan on May 8, 2013 17:29:58 GMT -8
Okay, to anyone else who wants to analyze this. (Feel free to ignore). I want you to come up with the craziest interpretation possible. Reason being that we don't want to get stuck on one idea. Thanks.
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Post by SwordSoup on May 8, 2013 18:09:19 GMT -8
Crazy interpretation? If you insist!
Shadows wake and seek for birth - The shadows that people were terrefied to see are going to try and take over the dominant person, reversing the power in the universe and using their new found physical forms to enact there revenge on the rest of the universe for containing them in semi-physical slavery for so long.
Temple dwellings sown with death - The first stop of the shadow people will be to graveyards, since toomstones are like temples to the dead. There, a great sacrifice of alien artifacts will occur, used to summon a great deity of shadow who will wreak war upon the living.
Give undead horror its silent breath - This further supports my claim, the dead will speak their final words in an attempt to summon the great spirit and bring a new erra of hope in the age of the dead. The damage that will never heal - Never can the wounds and injuries of old inflicted on the shadow people in the Second Great War of Darkness Monsters be forgiven, only regenged upon.
Is torn wide by the war horn's peal - Again, more evidence, the war horn is calling back to the ancient call for freedom from the shadow people of old durring the early days of the Great Shadow Enslavement.
The door cannot be shut again - This is referring to the metaphoricle door to the heart and fury of the shadow people.
For the wounds cannot be healed of men - This speaks of stark revenge. The shadow people will strike back with equal force, so now man can never recover either.
The seams are held by ancestors faith - This line is referring to the string used to sew the shadows to man in the first place.
But the shadows pass in like a wraith - The shadow people have been loosening the string for thousands of years. Ripping the string out with the already implied, alien crowbar.
Watch for the mists of the lands - This is a warning, bespeaking of the fact that you can't see shadows in the mist.
Drifting in from perilous night - Another time when you can't see shadows.
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight - This is referring to the final words of the dead in the graveyard and the location of the graveyard as well.
Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground - A shadow earthquake, duh.
Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound. - You will be bound in the way the shadow people used to be.
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Post by ElfChild on May 8, 2013 18:11:46 GMT -8
...Let's not do the ridiculous interps, ok? I can see this getting bad very quickly. Just. Don't be afraid to suggest new ideas. OK?
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Post by Scott on May 8, 2013 20:19:09 GMT -8
Shadows wake and seek for birth: Possibly the Shadowlands, although it could also imply some sort of being (or beings judging from the plural) that is seeking to enter our plane. Of course this could be a variety of nastiness such as demons or gods or whatnot, but for now let us simply assume that it’s bad. Very, very, bad.
Temple dwellings sown with death: Again there are a few possibilities I can see here. One would be an old tomb for the Sorikonian Ancestors that would also act as shrines, thus fulfilling both parts of the line. However it could also mean a temple or similar religious place that has had many people killed there. On a side note would something like that remove sanctifications?
Give undead horror its silent breath: Uuuummmmmm…animate dead? The raising of some sort of large undead force?
The damage that will never heal: possibly morganti, although I would agree with Alison’s assessment of the various “cracks that are only half shut right now.
Is torn wide by the war horn's peal: The coming of a new war or conflict that tears open these cracks, almost definitely causing all sorts of inter-dimensional problems.
The door cannot be shut again: Once reopened the cracks will not be able to be healed, if even a little bit. Either that or they were shut before and now despite all out attempts we won’t be able to fully close them a second time.
For the wounds cannot be healed of men: Somewhat obvious, although as Alison said it doesn’t mean we can’t try…
The seams are held by ancestor’s faith: It is the Sorikonian peoples belief in their ancestors and their pacifism that prevented these cracks from opening to widely, once they lost it they shot open very quickly all over the place.
But the shadows pass in like a wraith: A I stated earlier, nasty inter-dimensional stuff
Watch for the mists of the lands: I don’t have the slightest damn clue.
Drifting in from perilous night: See above
Listen for the murmurs: It would be repetitive if I simply restated Alison’s connections, so for the sake of you somewhat short attention span I will deign to resist the temptation to begin spouting felonious crap like some sycophantic monkey who wants a banana.
Of the dead men east from sight:~ Feel for the tenuous tremors:~ Of the earthquake which tears no ground:~
Wait for the coming madness: Kind of self-explanatory, some sort of large conflict looming on the horizon.
Of the hell to which you're bound.: Our plane possibly, although it also strikes me that it could also mean the hole we’ve gotten ourselves into with the dark city and now this new threat.
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Post by Paige on May 8, 2013 20:30:26 GMT -8
So, um, connections between this prophecy and the other one...? Mostly I'm just going to ask questions. Stuff to think about. Pertaining to Shadows: Now the island sinks in shadows Of a different sort of breed Than the storm upon your doorstep Or its disciples’ lust and greed...
Shadows wake and seek for birth Now, the above could be and most likely is Shadow land stuff. But is there anything in the 'different sort of breed' line? Maybe it is going to come from somewhere different? Might be worth thinking about. Also Lust and Greed. What is this. Does this have anything to do with the sisters? (I am quite out of loop on plot, by the way, so please ignore me if you want to) But what if it's hinting at something different than last season, maybe something less personal and more all-encompassing? Where else could shadows come from? Ancestor stuff: Seek the shrines once torn and broken For there answers you will find In the shrines of all your people And the prayers of all your kind.Okay. This seems important. Maybe. Could this have anything to do with the Vow? In the shrines of all your people- is this a literal shrine? Probably, but maybe it could be pertaining to something more to the ideals/hopes of the people. Prayers of all your kind- What are people praying for these days? Lack of war? Protection? Apparently there are answers here, so look closer? Lastly, this thingy: What lands hold the shadows That everyone should fear? What lands hold the fire That will bring you back to here?
It also seems like this is a really big plot string. Everyone seems to have come to the conclusion that the first part is referring to Shadow realm stuff, and that's probably correct. But what about the second part? Fire? Bring you back to here? Resurrection, maybe? What is it asking? Where is 'here'? If shadows is evil and death what is light/fire? Life. So what realm holds the power to bring you back to life? Maybe this is relevant?
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Post by Lily on May 8, 2013 20:30:34 GMT -8
Here is my attempt at it.(me trying to be funny in some parts, But all observations are serious)
Shadows wake and seek for birth
(fffffffffff, Remember Jeremy? What did he turn into?)
Temple dwellings sown with death
(Gateways to the shadow lands inside. open with care)
Give undead horror its silent breath
(Well this is referring to the necro skull warriors and nasty, vile, evil, insane, creepy, monsters, that were in the shrines)
The damage that will never heal
(If the shrine is damaged with the big M, then it stay there if in a more subtle way)
Is torn wide by the war horn's peal
(Thanks very much Dark City for opening the rifts in our shrines)
The door cannot be shut again
(We really are screwed if we can only put another bandage on)
For the wounds cannot be healed of men
(... the "of" would make a little more sense if it was "by")
The seams are held by ancestors faith
(Lets give a round of applause of the Ancestors, good job for keeping the gates closed)
But the shadows pass in like a wraith
(Wraith meaning ghost, The andcestors can't hold all the evil back)
Watch for the mists of the lands Drifting in from perilous night
(again, fffffffffffff, Remember the grey mist undead, from the shadow lands)
Listen for the murmurs Of the dead men east from sight Feel for the tenuous tremors Of the earthquake which tears no ground
(I think Alison is right on that one)
Wait for the coming madness Of the hell to which you're bound.
(Katia, or who ever is making the Cthulhu Cult, please stop...No that was a joke, this is saying Brace your self for the coming storm.)
That's my rant on analyzing it.
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Post by Celebfealor on May 9, 2013 11:34:39 GMT -8
The only thing I have to add to this right now is the "war horn's peal" part. I'm thinking that this line may actually refer to a very special and very specific war horn that we encountered in Adult League... it's a warded morganti war horn (warded we assume because it has the same bone pattern motif that the bone swords have) that, when blown, opens up rents to outside realms (like the elemental plane, at least). It was being used to make rift trolls.
But if there's a morganti war horn out there than can open tears to other realms when sounded... such as, say, the Shadowlands... might'n't that make sense? Especially given it's warded morganti, which means probably made by Curves and crew, and she was the one dealing with that in the first place...
(Yes this can get passed on because Ishmael was in Sorikonia briefly. Otherwise it wouldn't be addable...)
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Post by Scott on May 9, 2013 13:50:54 GMT -8
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