ZackAttack
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Ulalina
Jun 20, 2014 10:54:49 GMT -8
Post by ZackAttack on Jun 20, 2014 10:54:49 GMT -8
For purposes of discussing and dissecting the Ulalina song. The transcript of the lyrics I have is below; it is definitively incomplete and likely has errors. Ulalina (x4) Ulalina (x4) O cloud of white Of silver and of gold The sky lets go tonight The stars are growing old. I walk alone O'er earth and under bough My way is now alone This life I'm left to now. I'll soon to be On roads that never end For on old dreams Each way and every bend. Now breaks the dawn And with it too, my eye For all my friends are gone Therein we stand apart. Something I noticed in relation to elven lore: The first few verses (at the very least) seem to hold references to the Valar, particularly married couples. For instance, the first verse beyond the Ulalina ones contains "cloud" and "sky", both of which are within the domain of Manwë, king of the Valar. It also contains "silver/gold" and "stars", which either fall under the domain of or are part of the story of Varda, who is Manwë's spouse. The next two verses also seem to contain references to further Valar, but I will leave that to others to point out and discuss; hopefully others who are more willing to go into extreme detail than me.
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Ulalina
Jun 20, 2014 13:26:03 GMT -8
Post by Celebfealor on Jun 20, 2014 13:26:03 GMT -8
Apparently it's actually "Ulalina", not "Ulalia". Though your translation may still apply because the elvish has all kinds of funny grammar things in its translation and who knows. The thing about the Vala seems totally legit. For people who don't know as much about LotR lore - the Vala is the name of the Elvish pantheon. Here's a link to the wikipedia entry on them if you want to check it out and see for yourselves.
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Ulalina
Jul 8, 2014 11:13:31 GMT -8
Post by ElfChild on Jul 8, 2014 11:13:31 GMT -8
Attempting to figure out the full lyrics of this. As we've heard it sung by Lagin. And Zack thank you for reminding me that this already had a thread, whoops. Have made your suggested edit.
O cloud of white Of silver and of gold The sky lets go tonight The stars are growing old
I walk alone Over earth and under bow My way is now long (alone, lone, my own) This life I’m left to now
I’ll soon to be On roads that never end For on old dreams (For on O (tree, sea, ??); or For Onodri/Onodrim, which is elvish for ent/s) Each way and every bend
Now breaks the dawn And with it, too, my heart For all my friends are gone Therein we stand apart
.... To dance beneath the stars .... This grove that once was ours
.... (long?) .... (green) Now all my hope is gone Or never was it seems
This song of.. ..(what/why?).. forsaken me.. ..gave is all my (mirth?) Behind the oaken door
Where went the time When songs were glad and true .. -ed are gone As is each one of you
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clara
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Ulalina
Aug 8, 2014 13:50:37 GMT -8
Post by clara on Aug 8, 2014 13:50:37 GMT -8
Here's the bits that I got from the campout. This is the stuff from after the "therein we stand apart" bit. It's all from some very quickly scribbled notes, so this is what I managed to write down and then translate back from my hand writing.
... To dance beneath the stars ... this grove that once was ours ... for all my hope is gone Or never was it seems ... This song of.. ..(what/why?).. forsaken me.. ..gave is all my.. behind the oaken door ... where went the time when songs were glad and true .. -ed are gone as is each one of you
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Ulalina
Aug 11, 2014 15:18:02 GMT -8
Post by ElfChild on Aug 11, 2014 15:18:02 GMT -8
Added.
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Ulalina
Feb 8, 2015 23:43:36 GMT -8
Post by ElfChild on Feb 8, 2015 23:43:36 GMT -8
O cloud of white Of silver and of gold The sky lets go tonight The stars are growing old
I walk alone Over earth and under bow My way is now(all?) unknown (alone?) This life I’m left to now
I’ll sing to thee Of roads that never end For all are known to me Each way and every bend
Now breaks the dawn And with it, too, my heart For all my friends are gone Their memories torn apart
None follow him (here?) To dance beneath the stars Our (my?) world now fills with fear(s?) This grove that once was ours
I'll watch the day Turning on the (to?) dark of dreams For all my hope is gone Or never was it seems
Oh song(s?) of birth(earth?) Why do you forsake me now I have lost all my mirth Beyond the broken door(boughs?)
Where went the time When our songs were glad and true For now our (bed?dead?) of rhyme As is each one of you
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milaek
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Ulalina
Feb 9, 2015 21:45:32 GMT -8
Post by milaek on Feb 9, 2015 21:45:32 GMT -8
Hey so I'm not sure if this is still relevant cuz you guys seem to have come to a consensus on the official lyrics, but when i wrote the lyrics at the festival I heard "Him" instead of "Here" in the first line of the 5th verse, "Unknown" instead of "Alone" in the third line of the 2nd verse, and "Our" instead of "My" in the third line of the 5th verse.
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Ulalina
Feb 9, 2015 22:51:00 GMT -8
Post by ElfChild on Feb 9, 2015 22:51:00 GMT -8
There is no final version of the lyrics yet. Just attempts at one.
I'm pretty sure about "alone" (though I could be wrong), but I think you might be right about the other words. Edited.
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clara
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Ulalina
Feb 10, 2015 15:56:38 GMT -8
Post by clara on Feb 10, 2015 15:56:38 GMT -8
Seconded on all of what Kate said. I remember being surprised about the "unknown" thing because I had previously thought it was "alone" (maybe it was, but it's a different version?). And while I don't have exact notes on the other bits, I do remember the imagery, and it was "him" and "our" as far as I can recall.
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Scott
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Ulalina
Feb 11, 2015 12:37:00 GMT -8
Post by Scott on Feb 11, 2015 12:37:00 GMT -8
This is what I got from my notes, although I couldn't decipher parts of them and had to guess a bit.
O cloud of white Of silver and of gold The sky...tonight The stars are growing old
I walk alone Over earth and under bow My way is all unknown This life I’m left to now
I’ll sing to thee Of roads that never end For all are known to me Each way and every bend
Now breaks the dawn And with it, too, my heart For all my friends are gone Their memories torn apart
None follow him___ To dance beneath the stars Our world now fills with fears This grove that once was ours
I'll watch the day Turning on the dark of dreams For all my hope is gone Or never was it seems
Oh songs of earth Why do you forsake me now I have lost all my___ Beyond the broken boughs
Where went the time When our songs were glad and true For now our (Bed, dead?)____ As is each one of you
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Ulalina
Feb 11, 2015 17:43:37 GMT -8
Post by ElfChild on Feb 11, 2015 17:43:37 GMT -8
Trying to logic out a few of the the little unsure things.
I walk alone Over earth and under bow My way is now(all?) unknown (alone?) This life I’m left to now I'm going to bet line two ends with "unknown" because that would make it not be rhyming a word with itself. And also because most people got that.
None follow him (here?) To dance beneath the stars Our (my?) world now fills with fear(s?) This grove that once was ours Betting it's "none follow here" because it rhymes with "fear".
Beyond the broken door(boughs?) Betting this is "doors" or "door", since a door has been a fairly sure piece of the song for a while...
All that sound reasonable?
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clara
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Ulalina
Feb 11, 2015 18:20:30 GMT -8
Post by clara on Feb 11, 2015 18:20:30 GMT -8
Yeah. I don't remember very well about the "him/here" bit, but I am fairly certain about it being "unknown" and "door".
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Ulalina
Feb 11, 2015 21:00:23 GMT -8
Post by Celebfealor on Feb 11, 2015 21:00:23 GMT -8
I remember "unknown", "here", "our", "fear". Unsure about door/s. In case that helps. Not guaranteeing accuracy though.
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Ulalina
Mar 2, 2015 22:20:29 GMT -8
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Post by gamemasterchris on Mar 2, 2015 22:20:29 GMT -8
GM edit here- I sang one word wrong this time and you can verify it with previous versions, so rather than have you read significance into an error on my part I will tell you that the word "now" should have been "for". Hat should make your rhyme logic a lot easier...
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