Gorlan
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Dev
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Post by Gorlan on Aug 22, 2013 12:28:56 GMT -8
Tell you what. If you give me an item of adrenaline, then I will come cleanse it.
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Scott
Man at Arms
Sir Scott of the Rainbow Light
Yeeeesssss?
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Post by Scott on Aug 22, 2013 20:38:34 GMT -8
Two things: First off I would not recommend trying to cleanse that thing. Remember what we said earlier about jade dissolving into it? Well, if that indicates a taint you may not want to get half of those and send the other half to Isis. Secondly oni were traditionally one of the more honer bound Yokai as in that they had to follow a very specific set of rules. Each different form of oni had a different way to defeat them, but once defeated the oni was not allowed to return and bother/attack you again. For example if your pond had a kappa in it (a vampiric turtle demon) you could feed it a cucumber with your name on it and it would be forced to protect you. Thus if this in in fact some form of Yokai it is quite likely that their is a very specific way to defeat it, and once we do it will be gone permanently. At least from Sorikonia. However as Gabriel mentioned it is in fact easier to cast an oni out then destroy it, and hence instead of looking for ways to eradicate it completely it may be easier to find a way to simply remove it from the spiritual center of sorikonia.
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Post by gamemasterchris on Aug 22, 2013 23:17:10 GMT -8
I'm going to point out a few clarifications for all of you. 1. Historian does put the White Bone Demon as associated a great deal with encounters with the Shadowlands. She is considered by many to be native or an ally of that plane. 2. Evidence you have so far on the skull. It was describe as feeling "demon-y" and very evil. It was Morganti mana draining people as a field or aura. There are many factors involved with the TotCS encounter that make it hard to judge things accurately due to the "out of phase" state encountered, the presence of so many variables. When Ray pounded it with a spike of Jade it just trembled a bit. Nothing else effected it at all. You have a little evidence that it might act differently in the Shadowlands but most of that evidence PDed and so you only have what people saw from way back from it. 3. All the legendary items (ie the mirror, the tanto of Hachiman, etc) faded and became summon able as Oracle. Thus it is beloved that Astari can summon the mirror though no one knows this for sure.
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SwordSoup
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Gabriel
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Post by SwordSoup on Aug 24, 2013 3:05:04 GMT -8
Alright Chris, using historianness I'm going to check if there have been any previous encounters with the White Bone Demon and if there were did it have any morganti mana drain type ability and/or other things relating to the skull?
I only have 11 levels in historian for this so if anyone wants to help...
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Lily
Man at Arms
Quinn
Mm
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Post by Lily on Aug 24, 2013 11:11:38 GMT -8
2 levels in normal historian, 4 in item historian.
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Post by Celebfealor on Aug 24, 2013 12:05:09 GMT -8
Add another 32 levels in that.
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Post by gamemasterchris on Aug 24, 2013 19:52:58 GMT -8
Encounters with the White Bone Demon are very few and almost exclusively fatal. Thus, few accounts of actually surviving an encounter exist and for all you know she is quite common just totally deadly and permanent. She is known to take on many forms, and be able to transform into any object but the object retains something of her outsiderness. She is a master of disguise and often is said to lead people into committing acts they should not do (so a great deal of manipulation). She is said to wield two Chinese long swords when in battle and prefers the form of a beautiful young maiden when she does so. She cannot be killed except in her true form- which is skeletal- and killing her in another form just sends her ethereal where she must be killed again to force her into her skeletal form in which she must be killed a third time. She is said to weird Morganti on many occasions but not to Morganti mana drain people, which is a very uncommon trait. There is a rumor that something was found 22 years ago in one of the major shrines that did just this, but that it was removed and then disintegrated. Some say it was a flower... And that the masters know more about this but nothing is written of it. The white bone demon is almost always defeated by monkey. The few times people have survived an encounter with her Monkey is said to have either killed her, chased her off, or delayed her while people escaped. Her primary ability is was very adept at killing pacifists, usually by getting them to break their vows and thereby allow her access to their soul. She has some power to devour pacifists which is something like a disenchant when she does so in terms of mana gain and total destruction of said person. Those she devours, pacifist or no, are gone and do not reach their gods.
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Scott
Man at Arms
Sir Scott of the Rainbow Light
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Post by Scott on Aug 24, 2013 22:25:17 GMT -8
Ummmm, fun. Although at least my first rant was sort off accurate...
Also the people who did escape, are any of them still alive(although I kind of doubt it)? Also who is Monkey? Since your using it as an actual name I'm assuming that since your using it as a proper name it's not the Monkey King. You also mentioned how she often wields morganti, are it the Jians that are morganti or does she use other weapons.
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Scott
Man at Arms
Sir Scott of the Rainbow Light
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Post by Scott on Aug 24, 2013 23:08:38 GMT -8
Are there any records of weapons similar to the Ruyi Jingu Bang (At-will Gold-Bound Staff)used by the Monkey King in "Journey to the West"? If so, where was it's last known location? Also are their any item associated with Monkey (such as the boots of the Monkey King)?
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jeremy the other one
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Post by jeremy the other one on Aug 25, 2013 9:08:37 GMT -8
And by killing it three times do you mean like slay or exorcism?
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Gorlan
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Post by Gorlan on Aug 25, 2013 10:32:09 GMT -8
Scott, I'll stack 4 levels in item historian on your questions about the staff.
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Post by gamemasterchris on Aug 25, 2013 17:03:11 GMT -8
There are no records of the Staff of Monkey King as an item in Roekron. When I referred to Monkey, I was referring to Sun Wu Kung the Monkey King. There are several items associated with Monkey- particularly Monkey Nagi (a glave that changes into a belt as well as allowing the user to change shape, and of course the boots, as well as a Staff of Monkey King which is something like a companion item to the boots but very rare, and a necklace but it is also very rare. By killing the White Bone Demon I mean just that. The legends say she was killed as a mortal girl and the. Killed ethereally as a girl, and then killed as a skeleton. Whether of not she was exorcised in each form is unknown. It is likely that an exorcism ritual performed on the dead mortal version of her would force her ethereal and the. You would have to kill her there. Exorcism on the ethereal plane would likely force her skeletal etc. There is no one now living who got away from the White Bone Demon - they were all human and long since have died of old age. The Jians she uses are described as one Morganti and one magical. She sometimes used other weapons that were Morganti but usually just the sword.
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Lily
Man at Arms
Quinn
Mm
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Post by Lily on Sept 3, 2013 20:16:51 GMT -8
I just realized something. The Jade Orb of Sorikonia was taken out of the TotCS, right? It was probably there for a reason, maybe to slow the mana drain of the skull. This is probably another reason why things are getting terrible so fast.
Another random theory is how it got there. It could just have been one of the many other items and such that are just objects that reside in that tomb. Or the more sinister idea is that who ever placed the skull there also placed the orb. So that it would be our fault when it was removed and people started fading etc. Mind you I don't know exactly how the orb was found, so please correct me if I am spouting garbage.
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Post by Celebfealor on Sept 3, 2013 20:20:05 GMT -8
Or the more sinister idea is that who ever placed the skull there also placed the orb. So that it would be our fault when it was removed and people started fading etc. Mind you I don't know exactly how the orb was found, so please correct me if I am spouting garbage. ... Oh gods. I think you might be right. And that's what they've been doing all along. Well shit.
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Post by ablacklama on Sept 3, 2013 23:28:12 GMT -8
oh that's not good...
you should probably remove the skull ASAP
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